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This time on the protocol is a lot more productive. Okay.. those of you who do not know my history. I am one of the VERY FEW who did not respond well to the accelorated protocol. Actually.. i think I am the only one who was limited with it. For my history. About a 1 1/2 years ago.. I did the accelorated protocol for 30 days. I pumped for a month...Collected what I pumped which was only drops.I collected it in a syringe. After a month.. I only collected 1 tsp! So I went on another 30 days. After about 4 months of constant pumping I got to 2 ounces a day. But I Never went over that. I was just not a good responder. Well I finally decided to do the regular protocol. I was on it for 5 1/2 months. I started pumping 2 weeks ago. The first five days I only got drops as the estrogen left my system. Then the 6 th day I pumped half an ounce. It has gradually increased to 2 ounces.. which was my max after pumping for months before. Yesterday I went over 2 ounces.. so I am on my way. I have to say I am very happy this time. If I can finally get a supply going anyone can! I have noticed that my milk is a lot creamier and an orange tint to it this time. Compared to it being really watery looking and thin before. I have not started the herbs or oatmeal as of yet. Nor am I really drinking much water. I know if I do all of these it will probably increase faster. But its a busy week so I will probably start it next couple of weeks. But when Lenore says" Fantastic"
to me she really means it! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> we have been through so much in the past. Now I have been pumping with the PIS. But I am in a study Lenore has been conducting about how well the whittlestone works. Now that I am pumping... I will be switching over to the whittlestone this next week and see if I have a quick increase in my milk. This way we will know really how well the whittlestone works. I will keep all of you informed. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
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I had a slow start like you're describing when I started pumping, but after going for 3-4 weeks of pumping, I was getting 2 oz. a session, which was about right. I see all these women on here who are seeing milk right away, but it took me about five days to see drops, then it increased from there. So I would say you're having great results too! Congratulations!

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Thanks Kerri! I was completely shocked today. I took a shower and was drying off. I felt something funny. I looked down and I was leaking milk all down my stomach! I have had quarter size spots on my shirt before. But never leaking down my stomach <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> I freeze my milk in 2 ounce plastic bottles. And I noticed yesterdays milk I froze has changed. I know now I am on to mature milk. All the milk I have collected up til yesterdays was orange looking. My first milk I am now sure. And yesterdays was white and creamy. So it is as Lenore has said before. After 10 days we have mature milk like birth mothers do. An it was right on schedule.... at about 10 days. And another thing I realized. I was having a warm pinchy tingling going on. And it happened several times in the past few days. It turns out I am actually having letdowns! I can feel them. I paid attention to when it happens. Its like clock work when I need to pump. I can look at the clock.. and sure enough its time. This is all a whole new ball of wax for me <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" /> But I must say.. .for me personally.. I finally feel like something more than a failure. Oh another note. We met with another surrogate today. It looks really good <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />


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I totally know what you mean!

I remember posting my journey on the protocol on the ABRW and saying the same things you're saying. I couldn't believe it was working, because it hadn't worked that well the first time. I had a good experience using the SNS with Cole, but it was nothing like leaking and getting engorged with Adam.

It was a miracle to me, and I remember crying when I dropped a big old spot of milk on my knee when I got out of the shower and sat on the toilet! It was my birthday and Adam's due date (he was born 3 days later) and I remember thinking it was God's birthday present to me. I couldn't believe I could leak like a real woman! (Of course, people got mad at me for saying that, but I'd not felt like much of a real woman before then.)

I feel your joy! I wonder if you have a similar hormonal situation to me? Because we have had very similar experiences. I'd like to know how you do with the Whittlestone.

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Nona, I am so excited for you! You are on your way! That's wonderful, how quickly it increased to the 2 ounces. I am sure you will steadily see increases. Please keep us posted. I am so happy to have others pumping at the same time as me!
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Nona,
I am close to tears reading about your situation. I only hope I can do as well when I start pumping. We have all been through so much. I pumped the other day just to see and I have a large drop of dark brown thick liquid from the right after about 5 seconds of pumping and an ever so small drop from the left. The bcp is really suppressing me,,,Lenore said the fact I can get the drops is good while still on the bcp.
April 12th I run out of the Yasmin,,,3 days short of six months. I am still debating ordering more or not..our paperwork is held up at the Guatemalan Embassy so no baby in site yet, should just be a few more weeks till our referral though. I found the most adorable 2 year old boy also from Guat, but my hubby is not too thrilled with the financial aspects of 2 more. We are trying to see if we can afford it somehow without taking a loan. Please let us know how the Whittlestone works for you,,,,I bought a voltage converter to use with a pump so I can bring one to GU. If the Whittlestone works great for you, I will rent one, but I have spent so much money so far on the meds and the PIS I paid close to three hundred dollars for..money is an issue right now. I am so happy for you,,,orange milk huh,,,I bet your baby to be will love it!! Good luck with the insems,,,,take care Cathy

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I would NOT do the protocol again if i were you. You are having fantastic results now! What you are getting is not all that is in your breast. Your baby will be the best extracter of all. And remember you can always use a suplimenter. I would not even think of doing the protocol again if I were you. I am so happy for you with your results


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Kerri,
I remember when you posted on the other site about your being on the protocol and I remember the flack you got for it. I was not aware you had done the protocol more than once! We are so such alike in our progress. I was not aware of it. But you give me great confidence. You had a full supply. How long were you on it the first time?


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Cathy,
I look forward to the day you are pumping with us. I have 25 yasmin I will give you if you decide to stay on it longer. I was on it 5 1/2 months and if I am correct Kerri was on it 4 1/2 months. And she had a full supply. If you decide to continue on let me know.


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