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Posted By: MAMACITA6 HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/11/08 07:02 AM
HI ALL I AM NEW HERE AND COULD USE A LITTLE HELP. PLEASE? I AM ADOPTING AND THE BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS BUT THE BIRTH MOM HAS NEVER MADE IT THIS FAR ALONG IN A PREGNANCY BEFORE SO REALLY IT COULD BE ANYDAY NOW. I STARTED THE DOMPERIDONE 60 MG ADAY A WEEK AGO AND HAVE BEEN PUMPING FOR A WEEK, BUT ONLY GET A DROP OR TWO FROM EACH BREAST WHAT CAN I DO TO INCREASE MY SUPPLY FAST??????
ANY HELP WOULD BE DEEPLY APPRECIATED.
Posted By: Lalle Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/11/08 03:02 PM
Are you able to take the BCP and do the accelerated protocol? You could go on that for 30+ days. If the baby gets here before that time is up stay on the protocol but nurse with a lact-aid. After you drop the bcp add herbs and keep taking Dom. Baby at breast will help bring in your supply.
If you can't do the BCP then stay on the dom but up it to at least 80mg a day (you can go as high as 120mg but that should be a gradual increase only if you aren't seeing results) YOu need to add the herbs Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle taking 3 caps of each 3 times a day.
How often are you pumping and what pump are you using? If you do the protocol you would need to stop pumping until you drop the bcps.
Posted By: MAMACITA6 Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/12/08 04:36 AM
what is a lact-aid? i am puumping 4-5 a day and 1 a night i am using the ameda purely yours double electric pump
Posted By: Nona Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/12/08 03:38 PM
The ameda purely yours is not the best pump to use.. Its suction is not NEAR as strong as the Medela pump in style. The lact-aid is a suplimental nursing system. It has a bag and a tiny tube that runs over the top of your nipple for your baby to suckle at the breast even if there is not enough milk from the breast itself. I love the lact-aid it works great for me.
Posted By: Nona Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/12/08 03:45 PM
Here is the lact-aid website. http://www.lact-aid.com/
Posted By: MAMACITA6 Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/13/08 03:11 AM
OK GREAT I JUST BOUGHT THE LACT AID KIT AND I AM BUYING A MEDELA PUMP IN SYTLE. I PRAY THIS ALL WORKS I WANT NOTHING MORE THEN TO NURSE MY BABY GIRL!! I NURSED MY THREE SONS BUT THEY ARE 14,11,9 SO ITS BEEN A LONG TIME. THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP.
Posted By: Linda Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/13/08 05:26 PM
Hi Mamacita,

Just want to encourage you. I am 47 and now have 7 children, the youngest 3 ( 19, 11,and 4 months) by adoption. Our 4 month old( Bolivian born) old was given into our arms at 1 hr old and I decided to try and re lactate after 19 years! I prayed and sought information and help which I found on this site.

It's not the same as my bio children, but I am supplying a good portion of her daily needs and using the lact -aid for the rest. The bond is deep and the love only grows each time I give her part of me with my milk.

So take courage and press forward, it is worth ALL the effort

smile

Linda
Posted By: MAMACITA6 Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 02:37 AM
WOW I AM GLAD I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE WITH SO MANY KIDS. I HAVE 5 NOW, WITH THE ADOPTION IT WILL MAKE 6. AGES 14,12,11,10,9 AND ONE YET TO BE BORN. 3 BIO, 2 STEP AND 1 ADOPTION. I AM SO BLESSED AND EXCITED I CAN'T WAIT TILL SHE IS HERE!
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 12:10 PM
HI Linda.. I need help.. I have been nursing our baby we adopted at 2 days old for 14 mo, and now he does not want to nurse ,, only this am he did after 2 weeks. I want to relactate and we may be able to adopt another baby if we get called by 3 adoption agencys. I stoped my domperidone 5 days ago..and should I start the domperidone again?? should I start with 1 pill and then wait for a day or 2 and do 2 pills and then do 3 pills after a week or so? I was taking 3 pills 3 times per day,,but, never got a full supply. I think it has to do with me being in menopause. But, I do not know what to do.. I also have 8 kids now, most are grown.. and my youngest ones are 14 a girl and 15 a boy who were also adopted from Korea. thanks so much for any help! Lisa C
Posted By: Linda Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 01:47 PM
Hi Lisa,

I would go on the accelerated protocol. Even though you have some milk, it would be better for you to do the complete protocol so that your system kicks in well.
Because I traveled the day Audrey was born, I didn't start the protocol until 10 days afterwards. It was hard to wait for that month complete, but I am convinced it was worth it, with my milk supply building gradually. The lact -aid works really well to keep them latched on to the breast while supplying the milk.

Some gals get a full supply very fast after going off the protocol. Definitely DO not pump, it will confuse your body. Yes, start the Domperidone again, 80mg a day plus the BCP. They work together to 'trick' your body into thinking it's pregnant, and when you stop, it's like you gave birth. It really works!
As to the menopause part, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should write Lenore directly ( her address is on the home page) and ask if anything needs to be different.

It would seem that since you were nursing up till 2 weeks ago, it should be fine.

hope this helps
Linda
Posted By: Lalle Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 02:13 PM
Shy, are you taking hormone replacement for menopause? Here is a menopause protocol http://www.asklenore.info/breastfeeding/induced_lactation/menopause_protocol.html
If you are not on hormone replacement I believe you can just do the regular protocol that Linda described. Yasmin & bcp
Nona, is that right?
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 02:22 PM
HI Nona.. I am in menopause for 5-6 yrs now, and I have been nursing our baby Bradley who is 14 mo since he was 2 days old. I never did make a full supply for him , so he has formula and donated Breastmilk too. He will not nurse now at 14 mo.. the only time he did was this morn , both sides for a few minutes. it was a shock ! I am having very serve Vag dryness and it is not helping my marriage. my hubby is very understanding , but, the pain is terrible. I am going to talk to the Bio iden pharm today and try to get some Bi identical vag creme that he will make up special for me after I do saliva testing. We do not have a baby in the picture yet, but, we are trying to adopt another baby in the next 6 mo to a year. So , I thought I would dryup , but, I am having 2nd thoughts about it and not sure what to do. I do not want to have to start all over again withthe BC pills etc. I do not really want to use a Lact aid either. I do not have time for that at all. But, I do want to nurse again , and not give all fomula . I did write Lenore, but, she has not written me back yet.. thanks so much for writing back everyone! Lisa C
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 02:25 PM
HI,, I am not taking hormone replacement therapy.. nothing at all now. I am now taking 1 pill of domperidone, and I just started that today, after not taking any domperidone since the 9th of Oct. I still have milk though..I have not dried up yet,, so that is good. .can I just pump and free my milk? until we are able to adopt? we do not know how long that will be either. thanks so much.. Lisa C
Posted By: Lalle Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 03:41 PM
Lisa are you wanting to increase your milk for your 14 mo old? Or are you wanting to keep milk going in the hopes of getting a new baby? I am not clear on what you are trying to do and it will make a difference in how you proceed at this point.

Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 09:18 PM
HI Laurie.. I am wanting to continue as my hubby and I are open to adopting a new baby if God wants another baby with special needs in our family.. we want to be open , and would love for our Bradley who is now 14 mo old to have a sibling. My son Bradley has not wanted to nurse for weeks,, but,this morning when he 1st got awake,, he wanted to nurse !!! I was in shock.. he is adopted and has had formula and donated Breastmilk as well as what ever I could produce, which has never been that much. but, I loved nursing him as I did nurse my birth sons 30, 28 and 25 years ago. We adopted Bradley at 2 days old and he nursed that very day! I really do not want to dry up and have to start all over with BC pills and all of that protocall.. so, I am just hoping that I can pump 2-3 times per day and take 90 mg of domperidone and not have to start over . I just need help to know what to do so I will not have to start over when and if we ever get another baby. I am in menopause and have been for 5 years, almost 6. I am waiting for Lenore in Canada to write me back as I wrote to her about this very thing too. I really need help.. I was going to stop nursing as Bradley did not want to anymore until today. but, who knows what he will want tomorrow. and I do want to be ready if we ever get to adopt again, as I do want to give the new baby Breastmilk , donor milk and my milk and if I have to forumla.I do not know if Bradley will want to nurse any more.. I am in shock that he did that today! thanks, Lisa Culp
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 09:20 PM
HI Laurie.. I am wanting to continue as my hubby and I are open to adopting a new baby if God wants another baby with special needs in our family.. we want to be open , and would love for our Bradley who is now 14 mo old to have a sibling. My son Bradley has not wanted to nurse for weeks,, but,this morning when he 1st got awake,, he wanted to nurse !!! I was in shock.. he is adopted and has had formula and donated Breastmilk as well as what ever I could produce, which has never been that much. but, I loved nursing him as I did nurse my birth sons 30, 28 and 25 years ago. We adopted Bradley at 2 days old and he nursed that very day! I really do not want to dry up and have to start all over with BC pills and all of that protocall.. so, I am just hoping that I can pump 2-3 times per day and take 90 mg of domperidone and not have to start over . I just need help to know what to do so I will not have to start over when and if we ever get another baby. I am in menopause and have been for 5 years, almost 6. I am waiting for Lenore in Canada to write me back as I wrote to her about this very thing too. I really need help.. I was going to stop nursing as Bradley did not want to anymore until today. but, who knows what he will want tomorrow. and I do want to be ready if we ever get to adopt again, as I do want to give the new baby Breastmilk , donor milk and my milk and if I have to forumla.I do not know if Bradley will want to nurse any more.. I am in shock that he did that today! thanks, Lisa Culp
Posted By: Lalle Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 09:53 PM
Lisa I would try the dom and pumping as well as the herbs Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle 3 caps 3 time a day. You will need to pump more than 2-3 times a day but you can work up to that. If Bradley is nursing more and more then you can just pump to keep things going. If he stops completely and you find the dom and herbs plus pumping are not working you can always change courses and go on the protocol with the bcp. You can do the accelerated protocol in as little as 30 days and can even do it while nursing a baby with a lact-aid.

I have heard taking Evening Primrose oil is good for vaginal dryness.
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 10:40 PM
HI Laurie.. thanks so much for responding ! I do not think that Bradley will nurse , he has only nursed this am only once today. but, who knows if he will keep that up at 14 mo old. I do not know if we will be able to adopt again as we are older parents..and the agency we got Bradley thru picked us as the mom did not want to pick! so, that was how we got him! It was a real God thing, that is for sure! I think I will do the pumping and try to work up to more pumpings , but that is very hard with ababy and my other kids are teens and come every Tuesday and every other weekend. I do not really want to use the Lactaid as that would be hard to use with my teen son in the house.. he does not think Breastfeeding is very good.. he is only 15 and does not understand it at all. my dauughter is 14 and she is fine with it. If I find out we are getting a baby in the next 6 mo , I could try the BCPills aagin , if I can not get my milk back up to where it was with Bradley. Should I do the menopausal protocall instead , as that is what I am in for the last 5 years. I have never heard of Evening Primrose oil.. is in used as a vag type ointment?? I have so much pain , I think I am going to use Bio identical creme until I get a baby to nurse.. the BIo identical Pharm said I could use it until I get a baby , and then I have to stop. He said all menopausal women experience pain , and I am living proof of that.. no on talks about it though. it is a real pain to have to have that after we women are the ones to have to have all the pain having babies! But , that is the way life is sometimes,, not fair! I think I can not take Fenugreek , as I tried before and my feet swelled. I will try the Blessed Thistle though. what else could I use? thanks so much..Lisa Culp
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 10:41 PM
HI Laurie.. thanks so much for responding ! I do not think that Bradley will nurse , he has only nursed this am only once today. but, who knows if he will keep that up at 14 mo old. I do not know if we will be able to adopt again as we are older parents..and the agency we got Bradley thru picked us as the mom did not want to pick! so, that was how we got him! It was a real God thing, that is for sure! I think I will do the pumping and try to work up to more pumpings , but that is very hard with ababy and my other kids are teens and come every Tuesday and every other weekend. I do not really want to use the Lactaid as that would be hard to use with my teen son in the house.. he does not think Breastfeeding is very good.. he is only 15 and does not understand it at all. my dauughter is 14 and she is fine with it. If I find out we are getting a baby in the next 6 mo , I could try the BCPills aagin , if I can not get my milk back up to where it was with Bradley. Should I do the menopausal protocall instead , as that is what I am in for the last 5 years. I have never heard of Evening Primrose oil.. is in used as a vag type ointment?? I have so much pain , I think I am going to use Bio identical creme until I get a baby to nurse.. the BIo identical Pharm said I could use it until I get a baby , and then I have to stop. He said all menopausal women experience pain , and I am living proof of that.. no on talks about it though. it is a real pain to have to have that after we women are the ones to have to have all the pain having babies! But , that is the way life is sometimes,, not fair! I think I can not take Fenugreek , as I tried before and my feet swelled. I will try the Blessed Thistle though. what else could I use? thanks so much..Lisa Culp
Posted By: Nona Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/14/08 10:57 PM
Yes Laurie she could go on the regular protocol. Shy... if you chose to go on the protocol again the BCPs WILL help with vaginal dryness.
But if you have the commitment to pump and take domperidone and herbs then I would say go for it. How much milk do you pump?
Posted By: shy Re: HELP BABY IS DUE IN 6 WEEKS OR LESS! - 10/15/08 12:53 AM
I am only able to pump about a half oz per time asI quit the domperidone about 5 days ago.. I just started back today and only was able to get about one half oz,, but I am hoping that if I can go back up to 90 to 120 per day. .I will be able to get my milk back. we are thinking of wanting to adopt again..and do not know if we will get choosen as our age is up there.. I m 55 and my hubby is 50. so, I am hoping it works.. but, if it dosn't at least I will have tried. thanks so much.. Lisa
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