O.k so I am doing the excel protocol, and stopped pumping, bc I was doing it wrong! I'm went from hopeless to really excited today! I felt severly engorged sore, and went to the bathroom. You know how its just instinct to relieve yourself, lol! Well I got nothing, and noticed the boobs are getting kind of hard. I just ordered the Yasmin, but have been taking equivelent to 1mg of progesterone while pumping, bc I was misled by info on the web. How do I know when its enough, bc I'm not technically inducing lacation, I am relactating? I want to get the most success out of this bc I plan on giving this to my son till he's at least 5. The health dep. has him on Lactaid for now, and have to add he is doing much better, and makes me more at ease. I also don't want to go until its unbearable either, should I just grin and bare it. I'm not sure if I am allowed to take tylenol while doing this to ease some of the pain.

I appreciate all your guys help, and don't mean to be an annoyance or anything. I'm a single first time mommy trying to do whats best for my son, and I am still learning. He definately gives me so much joy!

I don't know much about pumping to ease the pain but I know tylenol is allowed while on the protocol. I had severe cramps when I started the protocol and was on tylenol. Good luck!

Well here it goes started the bcp today, kind of fatigued and anxious, but il be ok. Now if I could keep myself from pumping, bc I got sprays this morning. Here is to my journey, hopefully it won't take to long for the breast changed bc I technically have been doing this for a week now. Wish me luck! Cheers to my sons health!

I was massaging my breast about an hour ago and notice a bunch of little bumps around my aerolas that weren't there before. I got myself in a little bit of panick thinking the worst, went online, and lo and behold I discover they are montgomery tubercles. They are either caused from changes in the breast from pregnancy or lactation! Yippy! Now we are getting some where!

I have a question, I am out of my bcp waiting for my yasmin to get in the mail, do I have to start the protocol all over again? and should I get goats rue shipped over night just in case, or what about a combo of estrogen and progesterone cream? It seems like every time I get the ball rolling something comes up, I'm already in deep with this I am not giving up.

when will the bcp's arrive. How long have you been on the bcp's already?
Jennifer

I've only been on them since the 22nd, I just took what I had left in the closet. My yasmin is supposed to be here in a couple more days I hope.

I ordered Vitanica, some more blessed thistle, and fenugreek just in case. I have a ton of Alfalfa too! I started pumping, and have about 5 ml, so I am at a limbo!

I've been confused about what protocol you were on, since you mentioned pumping, but also taking BCP's. The way I understand it, you're not supposed to pump at all until you're through with the BCP part of the protocol. But, I'm going to take a stab at your implied question, anyway...

If you go off the BCPs for a week, you'll have a rapid lowering of your levels of progesterone and estrogen. But if you were only on them a week or so to begin with, I doubt they've had time to 'do their thing'. So, I would start counting days over from when the new pack of BCPs arrive, unless you have some means of keeping your estrogen and progesterone up while you wait. I'm not familiar with Vitanica, so I don't know what that's supposed to do.

The main thing with the BCP phase, the way I understand it, is to take the pills for at least 30 days or until you see significant changes in the breast and then to stop the pills and start pumping.

When I started this journey, I was trying to relactate naturally. I then read that low progesterone levels can put a damper on your supply, so I started the mini pill, but I was wrong. I was then instructed by Lenore that I should do the excell protocol, so I stopped pumping, and started taking equivalent to 1 mg of progesterone plus dom, but I am out of my bcps untill I get my yasmin in the mail, which seems like it is taking for ever. I am taking the yasmin until they are all gone when I get them. However, Im getting worried that I may not recieve them so I ordered vitanica and herbs just in case, and have goats rue for back up in case.

So restarted the protocol yesterday, and I woke up feeling pretty engorged is this normal? Im doing pretty good on the yasmin, Im going to do the protocol for 2 months!

So, I have been on the bcps for about a month all together with a 10 day break in between, bc I was waiting for my bcps. I noticed that my boobs are a little bit bigger, aerolas definately bigger. However, they are not painful, but feel full. I got a little curious and hand expressed about 10 ml, and sprays. Should I be patient and wait a little longer, bc I am relactating, and want the most bm I can get for my little guy? Oh its been 11 days since I started the bcps again from when I ran out!

So, I am really excited! I am on day 9 of the regular protocol and am feeling major breast changes going on (started on day 4-5). The medication is doing its job!

Kim

I am so excited for you doula that is awesome, I'm not exactly getting any bigger, but there fuller, and little painful. So I started taking vitanica with goats rue and a fertility blend, plus fenugreek to help speed the process. Hopefully I don't have to be on these bcps for very much longer, they're ungodly.

O.k now I am frusterated I thought the yasmin was supposed to bring on the breast changes faster, but after I emailed Lenore I am supposed to be on the ortho. Well here is another dilemma, I can't find it on inhousepharmacy, does anyone know where I can get it w/o a prescription, bc I doubt my dr is going to do it, I had to break her leg just to get yasmin approved!

I have been on the protocol for about a month now. My breasts feel tender and full and tingly off and on. Should they feel this way constantly or is off and on normal? I think that they have grown, but it is kind of hard to tell since I am ample to begin with. I just want to make sure that things are going as they should be.

Kim

I think off and on is normal. I didn't see much growth, but still had success with the protocol.
Jennifer