well as you ladies know .. it has been a roller coaster ride. I thought it would be nice to kind of make "Journal" about our experiences on the way. As you know we were matched. Then it fell through. Again the match was on again. Well as it turns out our lawyers said nada!. So our search was on again. I will tell you.. its a very emotional roller coaster ride. You really go through a lot of emotions. Depression becomes your close friend at times. Well we prayed about it. And asked the Lord to send the right one. And it looks as though its going to work this time. A surrogate contacted me who is only 1 1/2 hours away from us! I know the Lord is in this one. The first lawyer I called in her town about representing her does surrogacy. And will represent her for 50.00. Yes you heard that right 50.00. I almost fell out of my chair with this one. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif" alt="" /> . So hubby goes this week for his tests.. And we should be signing contracts in a few weeks. She wants to do January insems. But I think it will probably be Febuary. Its amazing how well things go when its all right. Lenore has been a fantastic support system for me. Her and I had not talked in quite a while. So I emailed her. She was there during the highs and the lows. She picked up like we had never stopped talking daily. She is fantastic! Well I wanted to update you. If this falls through for some reason I will let you know.. or give you good updates <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> . The hardest part for me was talking to so many surrogates. I found out it is about normal to go through atleast 20 before you get to the right one. This is definetly not for the weak at heart. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> . I licked my wounds many times.. Lenore can vouche for that <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /> . I am also right at 3 months on the protocol. My breasts really kill me. If I roll over at night they wake me up. But this is all good. Hopefully I will have a full supply for our little one. I fully expect to start pumping about 3 to 4 months before the baby is due. And if I respond well to the pump and have plenty of milk. I will donate it out with my donation program. So I have it all planned out. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif" alt="" /> . Hope the bubble doesn't burst again. But if it does. Its part of the trade of surrogacy. I will pick up and go on again. So thats where we are right now. Let you know more if its good or bad. hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Well we met our surrogate saturday. She is so funny. Actually she is mouthy like me <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/ooo.gif" alt="" /> . We had fantastic time. We met her husband and daughter as well. Things are looking great. We go to the lawyer thurdsay for the contracts.. and hope to start inseminations Febuary. And a bit of more news. We have been told about baby to adopt. The birth mother asked for us to adopt it. So IF the adoption works as well. My babies will be 3 to 4 months apart. The adoptive one being born first. I wanted to give an update.. I have been so busy with all of this! Hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Wish you lots of luck. We are Intended Parents that will be starting in February also with a surrogate Mother. I'm looking for a buddy so if you are free let me know :-) Best to you in 2003!!!! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Oh Debbie! I would love to have a surro buddy <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> . Do you have yahoo messenger? If not down load it. My I.D. is mrsmalady and my email is [email][email protected].[/email] I would love us to be buddies <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
I've got fingers, toes, and everything else crossed. Thinking sticky thoughts and praying for a positive pregnancy test in 2 weeks. Wishing you the best of luck with all my heart.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and I have everything crossed too!!!
Wishing you the best of luck my dear friend. Fondly,
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
well AF showed her ugly face today <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /> . So we will try insems again this month.. Wish us luck!
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Hello all. Well our surrogate and her family are coming down tomorrow to spend the weekend with us. I am so glad she is close enough that we can really get to know her well. Let you know how our weekend goes. hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Well ... we did insems again.. We did 5 days worth of fresh ones. She surged 4 days ago. And started bleeding heavy again last night. She bleed like this on surge days last month. I have no idea what is going on ughhh. I told her she needs to go to the doctor. So I guess this means it didn't take again this month. I hope this isn't a bad sign for us. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Nona, I agree she needs to go to the Doc and see whats going on, it totally does not make sense that she is bleeding after the LH surge which indicates ovulation is close. I am sorry it is not working yet. Are you still adopting the newborn? Hang in there, we are here for you! Cathy
No we aren't adopting the new born. BM decided to parent <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /> . I told her we won't do any more insems til we know whats going on. I will let you know what the Doctor says
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Nona, I am sorry that the adoption did not work out. We had one also not work out 1.5 years ago, I was devestated. She had hepatitis,,,I was so confused as to what to do. Anyways, I hope everything works out with the surrogate. Hang in there! Take care, cathy
NG protocol 7 months.pumped 5/15-9/15
started pumping again 1/26/04
Ana born 6/03.home 3/30/04
trying to nurse!
well update on our journey. We did 4 cycles of insems. And our surrogate did not concieve. She has messed up cycles really bad. So we agreed to move on ughhh <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /> . But we are talking with another surrogate who is 30 miles from us and about 35 minute drive... I am hopeful with this one... I will let you know if we are a go... hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
I'm so sorry to hear that your SM did not work out and about the failed adoption. My thoughts and prayers are with you dear friend.
Fondly,
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
Well actually.. I could not take being on the bcps anymore. I was on them 5 1/2 months. I stopped 2 weeks ago. I pumped for 5 days before I saw my first milk. In a week and half I am pumping 2 ounces a day. It felt great to get off of the pills and the zoloft to <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> .
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Nona, I know what you mean about wanting to get off them.. On April 12th I will run out of Yasmin and will probably not order any more,,,it will be almost six months by then. Our paperwork/dossier is still being tied up at the Guatemalan Embassy, but if we get it back soon, we will get our referral shortly after that. Congratulations on the 2 ounces a day! Take care, Cathy
WOW! 2 oz in 10 days!!!! That's AMAZING! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Fondly,
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
Well Ladies, We are starting our surrogacy journey again. We have a surrogate in Washington <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" /> . I ordered my shippers and TYB today. Since we will have to ship the sample through the mail. We should start next month! Wish us luck this time. hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Nona, After our Guatemalan baby is home and settled in, we are thinking about a surrogate, but will not be able to afford the 60 grand the agencies charge. I hope you will be able to help us find one (TS), you seem to know sooo many. I hope it all works out for you, I am sure this is THE one! take care, Cathy
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
Thanks Lenore! Well we should be inseming in the next 10 days. Still have a chance on the baby to be born next month as well. But I don't hold out much hope for that. The grandmother is pretty persistant on getting it. But if it turns out we do. .We will just have 2 little ones running around the surro baby and adopted one. But I believe we will just have the surrogate one. Our surrogate is so sweet. We plan on flying up when she is about 4 1/2 months for a visit. Then again at the birth. She has to have c-sections.. so we will know when its to be born. She has really regular cyles to. So hopefully it won't take long to get preggo.
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Hey Nona, Good luck..I am sure it will work soon! We missed the international cutoff time today at the airport by one minute..turns out it was for the best...oiur facilitator called after we left for the airport and said they think the Embassy in Guatemala is not starting any new cases after today and of course our case was to start tomorrow...so, now all travel plans are on hold and we may not even be able to get Ana or do any adoption for a long time in Guatemala...it seems very fishy in that the day after we send in the 2nd nonrefundable installment of 8500 dollars, that we get this news. Hmmmm. See why we don't trust anyone is the whole adoption business? I am too upset to even think straight right now,, seems silly, but we had bonded wth the photo and think of her as our daughter already. What would have happened if I got on that plane? She said the police are stopping adoptive women and foster moms on the street and if I had gone down (and not received her message yet) then...I would have to stay in the hotel room and not go outside for the whole trip...sounds just like Peru all over again...now what do we do? I guess just wait and see what happens with the Embassy tomorrow. What a bad day....Cathy
Cathy, I just wanted to say that I am sorry. I wish that I had magical words of wisdom that I could say to make things better for you. I will pray that you hear better news tommorow.
Hi, Thanks everyone,,,I think we may have Nona help us to find a surrogate also...I don't know how much more of this adoption business I can take,,,,Now the latest is that even if we put her in an orphanage, we may still not ever be able to have her assigned to us, as now the government of Guatemala will assign all kids. Turns out on a website call "ethica" there have been warnings about Guatemala since April...which I did not see, nor did our facilitator tell us about it. We will know more on Monday, in the mean time, she is getting older each day and being bottle fed. If we don' t get good news on Monday (like we can go and travel down etc and adoptions will still be processed)...I am afraid she will never latch , she is already 10 days old... We may keep trying for her, but start with surrogacy also. Thanks Nona, I will e-mail you and get your input...Cathy
Well Ladies..as I knew would happen the baby to be born this month....The Grandmother will parent it. But please pray for us!!!! Another POSSIBLE situation might be coming our way.If we get the baby.. it will be a very happy open adoption. Please pray for the Family of this baby. This can never be an easy decision. hugs to all Nona
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Well if we get this baby.. the baby will be about 2 when the surro baby is born. That would put them pretty close together. They will have fun together. Please pray for this family... and us to!
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
I know a little about the situation with both Nona and Cathy. Please pray for both of them. In Nona's case the adoption may be very soon, and a very sad story may have a happy ending for all concerned. The family has a monumental decision to face but I'm sure that all would agree that placing this baby with Nona will be one of the best decisions they can make.
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone waiting for their babies or deciding to place them.
Fondly,
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
Thanks Lenore, I cried all day yesterday, still can't believe that ethically, this woman matched us wtih a beautiful baby girl, knowing what the situation would be like in just a few days after her birth. And, we feel really stupid for trusting her and giving her so much money,,we feel that we should have somehow known that Guatemala was going to be in a total mess starting July 1st,,,we are just too trusting....we are grasping at straws to try to see if we can somehow put our Ana in an orphanage and still get her out of the country that way. They are no longer allowing private foster care, even though it is way better for the babies and kids. So, far, between the first adoption in Peru, the IVF attempts and what we have put into this second adoption, we have spent around $86,000. Hard to imagine..how many long 12 hour shifts I have had to work to pay for this,,,I am so glad we have our son, from Peru, although he is extremely demanding, we don't know what we would do without him. Thanks Lenore, I am sure glad everything has worked out so well for you,,,and Nona,,,I am thinking good thoughts about you and your surrogate and the adoption also. Take care, Cathy
Nona I will be sending prayers your way. Having worked with birthmothers through our adoption agency I am of the opinion that in most cases it is best for the girl and all involved to make an adoption plan. The girls and I stronlgy believe their families too need to take a look at what is truley best for the baby. May this family in their wisdom and through the guidance of God feel and know in their hearts what is treuly best for the baby.
Cathy, My prayers I will continue to send your way. There has to be a rainbow coming your way after all the rain. Hang in there. Thank you for inspiring me to keep on going.
oh ladies!! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" /> I have seen pictures of this beautiful precious baby! Absolutely stunning child. I have been blessed today by these pictures <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Thanks Bella, After two years of trying to adopt a second child, some people at work think I am crazy/over the edge. I tell them that I am determined to have a sibling for our son. I also missed out on so much of his babyhood, in Peru, I would love to experience a baby again. We will all get them soon! Nona, any news on if the grandmother will parent the baby or not? Take care. Cathy
this is not the baby I have been speaking of. Yes the Grandmother is going to parent that baby girl. This is another baby girl I have recieved a picture of. Lenore knows about her and her situation. She is beautiful! Now I have to wait for the decision. And if you knew the story.. you would understand its not an easy one for the family.
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
I did not get this baby... <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif" alt="" /> . But I do have wonderful news! We have another surro! 3 times is a charm right? She is only 2 hours away from us. And is a wonderful lady. Been through 2 surros and 2 failed adoptions.. This one sounds wonderful. We click really good together. .Wish me lots of luck!!! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
HI, Good luck with this surrogate..you must have alot of breastmilk in your freezer from all your pumping. I know it will work on the first try ! Take care, Cathy
NG protocol 7 months.pumped 5/15-9/15
started pumping again 1/26/04
Ana born 6/03.home 3/30/04
trying to nurse!
actually I have a 20 cubic foot commercial freezer that has only a 3 foot space left in it! It is crammed full! I told Lenore.. I think I will finish filling it up and then go back on the protocol. Not that I need to . But I don't think I want to pump for another 10 months or so ughhh. I have been pumping for 5 and thats enough! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Nona, Three times is a charm and I hope that soon you will have some good news for all of us. I do not blame you for wanting to go on the protocol again
I have actually been thinking about doing that if we do not get a placement soon. Would I produce more if I were to do the protocol again? This has been the first time that I have done anything with breastfeeding. So would I do better doing the protocol again because it would be a second time around for me. Just curious. Though yesterday I pump 17 1/2 ozs so that does encourage me. What are your thoughts?
Well ladies, We meet our surrogate and sign contracts today <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" /> . And best part is we do our first insems to! Wish us lots of stickly thoughts++++++++
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Hi Nona, Good luck with the insem's...Bella,,,if you are tired of pumping I would say go back on the protocol,,or just use your frozen milk with the Lact-aid and start domperidone again once you have the baby...take care ,,Cathy
I have NEWSSSSS!!!! Our surrogate got a POSITIVE pregnancy test today <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif" alt="" /> . She has a doctors appointment tomorrow. The baby will be due around august 14th or on I should say. If I am dreaming.. please.... noone wake me up! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Well our surrogate is 3 months today! <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif" alt="" /> . She is so great. We go visit them about twice a month. She is starting to pooch now lol. We should hear the heartbeat at our appointment this month. We are hoping we can get them to do an ultrasound to. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
HURRAY!!!! FABULOUS NEWS!!!! I'm so happy for you dear friend. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Fondly,
Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC Wife to Rob, Mom to Adam aged 13, and Ethan aged 9, both born via GS and breastfed via Regular Newman-Goldfarb Protocol.
Well Ladies.. our surrogate is 23 weeks today.. One more week and she will be 6 months. We still do not know what the baby is. It is not cooperating with the ultrasound. But they are going to try to find out again on the 16th. I am so extremely happy. Now ... I need to know what it is! Need to get the boy or girl stuff ready. She sent me belly shots and I about fell out of my chair! She is really got a nice round belly now <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" />
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Wow, Nona this is so exciting! Are your other children boys or girls? Oooh you get to buy all those cute little outfits I see in the stores all the time. Boys are fun but face it their clothes just aren't quite as cute as girl clothes. <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif" alt="" />
Laurie~Craig's wife~Mom to 4 blessings nurtured at the breast CJ(24)Travis(21)Beka~adopted(9)Rab(6)
our surro will be 7 months on Saturday! I am getting butterflies in my tummy <img src="http://www.asklenore.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif" alt="" /> . We have waited so long for this. And I wanted to give a public thank you to my dear friend Lenore. She has been a close and dear friend to me for about 3 years now. And she has been there for me every step of the way.Through all my ups and downs I love her dearly
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Our surrogacy has come full circle now. Miss Olivia is 3 weeks old. Still in preemie clothes. A tiny little thing. But breastfed and happy. Here is a pic I took today
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
Wow Nona, that just makes me smile. What a wonderful feeling you must have to see all of your hard work pay off. She is gorgeous. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Laurie~Craig's wife~Mom to 4 blessings nurtured at the breast CJ(24)Travis(21)Beka~adopted(9)Rab(6)
Christina, Thanks for asking! I have not been the most consistant on breastfeeding only. There has been a few times a day that my daughter gets a bottle and when I nursed her I followed up with a bottle. I haven't used the lact-aid much. I know I need to. But her latch is not good with the unit. Yesterday I only suplimented her 10 ounces in 24 hours. The rest she got from me! Today she has been attached to the breast most of the day... literally. So I am anxious to see if my supply goes up more. I must say I am surprised. I was only pumping 4 ounces a day.
Adoptive mommy to 4 , Last 2 adopted nursed. Youngest nursed till she was 5! Raising 2 grandbabies, as infants they were raised on donor breast milk
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