Lenore, what's your opinion of this? - 10/11/02 04:11 AM
Hi, all!
I know Lenore doesn't go the ABRW anymore, so I know she wouldn't get a chance to respond to this. I am not trying to start anything, I just honestly want to know what Lenore thinks of this, and what her response is. I don't know who this person is that originally posted this. Hopefully no one will be offended that I copied this over, as that certainly wasn't my intention.
I'm afraid there has been a bit of a misunderstanding about my position on the Newman-Goldfarb protocols for inducing lactation. I spoke to Lenore last spring as I was preparing the lectures for the LLL Lactation specialist series which I have now given at several sites in the US. This protocol is one of several currently or recently in use which I discuss during the lecture. Each protocol is examined critically and concerns are clearly spelled out. Inclusion of a protocol does not imply endorsement. I would not consider myself "supportive" of the Newman-Goldfarb protocol. There is as yet no published research on it. It has, however, been used by a number of women and it is my understanding that a formal article is in preparation. My concerns are twofold: the women following it are on a lot of medication for prolonged periods - and the results have not, on average, been better than those achieved by many women using protocols involving less medical intervention - or no protocol at all except the baby at the breast. As much as any other person involved in this area, I'd like to see a safe intervention that makes both relactation and induced lactation easy. Thus far the best intervention - besides the obvious one of putting the baby to breast a lot - is growing up in a culture where everyone believes that people with breasts can breastfeed.
Warm Regards,
Elizabeth Hormann
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nbduane
(Owner/Creator ABRW)
10/10/02 01:08 AM
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Hello all...
To review Elizabeth Hormman's credentials Please click on the highlighted link and go half way down on the following page. I'd cut and paste her credentials myself... but I don't want to infringe on any copyrighted information.
Kind Regards,
Naomi B. Duane
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Karleen
(Extra Helpful Experienced Member)
10/10/02 03:15 AM
Re: My Position On The Newman-Goldfarb Protocols [re: elizabethhormann] Reply
Thankyou for coming to the group to clarify your opinion for us. I agree 100% with the quote below!
Karleen Gribble
Australia
"Thus far the best intervention - besides the obvious one of putting the baby to breast a lot - is growing up in a culture where everyone believes that people with breasts can breastfeed. "
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Sutherland
(Boot Camp Moderator)
10/10/02 01:09 PM
Re: My Position On The Newman-Goldfarb Protocols [re: elizabethhormann] Reply
Guten tag Elizabeth- long time no see. As someone who has always been both very open minded and who shared the wisdom of your experience with breastfeeding, I for one am happy to see your post here.
Tracking the experiences of those who have used the Newman Protocol, we see a variety of results. Some feel it is the only answer to every bf challenge and that can only lead to disappointment. The is no one thing fits all answer as every situation comes with its own unique aspects.
For those with the funds, time, patience, and a sure due date, the results can be good as long as mother's health permits and she does not mind using milk that has herbs & meds added. The big focus on milk production can also diminish the great emotional satisfaction that is part of nursing.
Having simply bf an adopted daughter with a supplementer, my supply grew slowly, but the fulfillment was equal to full milk production with my bio babies. We simply nursed tiwce as long to provide about the same amount of milk and it was no big deal.
Hope all is well with you and yours and that you drop in here when time permits as we can all benefit from your experience...Ann
I know Lenore doesn't go the ABRW anymore, so I know she wouldn't get a chance to respond to this. I am not trying to start anything, I just honestly want to know what Lenore thinks of this, and what her response is. I don't know who this person is that originally posted this. Hopefully no one will be offended that I copied this over, as that certainly wasn't my intention.
I'm afraid there has been a bit of a misunderstanding about my position on the Newman-Goldfarb protocols for inducing lactation. I spoke to Lenore last spring as I was preparing the lectures for the LLL Lactation specialist series which I have now given at several sites in the US. This protocol is one of several currently or recently in use which I discuss during the lecture. Each protocol is examined critically and concerns are clearly spelled out. Inclusion of a protocol does not imply endorsement. I would not consider myself "supportive" of the Newman-Goldfarb protocol. There is as yet no published research on it. It has, however, been used by a number of women and it is my understanding that a formal article is in preparation. My concerns are twofold: the women following it are on a lot of medication for prolonged periods - and the results have not, on average, been better than those achieved by many women using protocols involving less medical intervention - or no protocol at all except the baby at the breast. As much as any other person involved in this area, I'd like to see a safe intervention that makes both relactation and induced lactation easy. Thus far the best intervention - besides the obvious one of putting the baby to breast a lot - is growing up in a culture where everyone believes that people with breasts can breastfeed.
Warm Regards,
Elizabeth Hormann
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nbduane
(Owner/Creator ABRW)
10/10/02 01:08 AM
Re: My Position On The Newman-Goldfarb Protocols [re: elizabethhormann] Reply
Hello all...
To review Elizabeth Hormman's credentials Please click on the highlighted link and go half way down on the following page. I'd cut and paste her credentials myself... but I don't want to infringe on any copyrighted information.
Kind Regards,
Naomi B. Duane
Post Extras:
Karleen
(Extra Helpful Experienced Member)
10/10/02 03:15 AM
Re: My Position On The Newman-Goldfarb Protocols [re: elizabethhormann] Reply
Thankyou for coming to the group to clarify your opinion for us. I agree 100% with the quote below!
Karleen Gribble
Australia
"Thus far the best intervention - besides the obvious one of putting the baby to breast a lot - is growing up in a culture where everyone believes that people with breasts can breastfeed. "
Post Extras:
Sutherland
(Boot Camp Moderator)
10/10/02 01:09 PM
Re: My Position On The Newman-Goldfarb Protocols [re: elizabethhormann] Reply
Guten tag Elizabeth- long time no see. As someone who has always been both very open minded and who shared the wisdom of your experience with breastfeeding, I for one am happy to see your post here.
Tracking the experiences of those who have used the Newman Protocol, we see a variety of results. Some feel it is the only answer to every bf challenge and that can only lead to disappointment. The is no one thing fits all answer as every situation comes with its own unique aspects.
For those with the funds, time, patience, and a sure due date, the results can be good as long as mother's health permits and she does not mind using milk that has herbs & meds added. The big focus on milk production can also diminish the great emotional satisfaction that is part of nursing.
Having simply bf an adopted daughter with a supplementer, my supply grew slowly, but the fulfillment was equal to full milk production with my bio babies. We simply nursed tiwce as long to provide about the same amount of milk and it was no big deal.
Hope all is well with you and yours and that you drop in here when time permits as we can all benefit from your experience...Ann