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I used goats rue, wild lettuce, fenugreek and blessed thistle before I did the protocol. My daughter is adopted and I was trying to induce on my own, I had previously breastfed two bio children. I don't know about goats rue by itself. Here is another website where she sells some tinctures and she (Annie) is a Board Certified LC http://www.growinglife.com/tea.htm


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Hi Karen,

If you had difficulty with breastfeeding then you really do need to see a board certified lactation consultant. She can probably solve your problem with one visit. The key is to have baby latch PAST the nipple, and well and truly onto the breast. The deeper the better, with lips flanged outwards, like he's biting into a big apple.

The tincture is fine for low milk supply but I'm not sure if it will help with "no" milk supply. You can give it a try for about a week and if you don't see a visible difference in your milk supply while pumping, please consider domperidone. It usually only takes about a month for a mother in your position to resume breastfeeding with the help of domperidone.

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Hi Lenore,

Thanks for the reply. I am still pumping and Michael has started latching on now. He is definately latching on better than he was first time round. His mouth is definately bigger. When I was breast feeding I saw 4 lactation consultants who all said that his latch and positioning was good. i just had so many problems, hoping this time will be better.

If I use the domperidone will I be able to stop taking it after a while or will I have to take it for the rest of the time I am breastfeeding?

I am getting something out now when I pump although it is only a drop. Not sure if this is what I am supposed to be getting but I do hope that my milk will come in soon. I have only been pumping for 5 days so I am hoping that things are going good!

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Hi Karen,

Sounds like you're off to a good start. CONGRATULATIONS!!

There are a lot of people "out there" calling themselves lactation consultants. Unfortunately, not all lactation consultants are created equal. Were the ones you saw board certified? It makes a big difference.

Breastfeeding should not hurt. As long as your baby is latched well and truly onto your breast you should be fine.

Most biological mothers only need the domperidone for a short time. Try it for a month and see, and you can always stop if you're not comfortable.

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Hi Lenore,
One last question - if I start domperidone and when my milk supply is in can I stop taking the tablets and keep my milk supply as long as my baby feeds or if I stop will I lose my milk supply? i really dont want to take tablets but I think this is my only option so I would like to come off them as soon as possible.

Are there any side effects that I should worry about? What is the longest time you think I will have to take the tablets for?

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Hi Karen,

Once your milk supply is well established you can wean off the domperidone. Some mothers pump after feeds while weaning off the domperidone to maintain their milk supply. The most important thing you can do is frequent draining of your breasts. This is what builds your milk supply. The domperidone helps to increase Prolactin which is necessary for milk synthesis.

Side effects most often reported are a headache the first week of use, tummy ache because domperidone was originally designed to help people with upper gastrointestinal problems, and weight gain because domperidone moves food through your system a little faster than normal and so you get hungrier faster.

Does anyone have any other side effects to report?

As for length of time on the domperidone, that depends on you and your breasts. Hard to say. It can be quite fast since most biological moms do not need to stay on the domperidone as long as moms inducing lactation. I just worked with a bio mom whose milk supply had completely stopped after an illness and she was able to relactate with domperidone within 72 hours. But in all fairness, give it at least 2 weeks to a month.

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Hi Lenore,
I have ordered a lact-aid and was wondering if I use this will this help my milk supply come in? I want to try getting my supply in naturally with pumping and latching before I turn to tablets but if nothing happens soon i will try domperidone. My baby will latch on now and time varies from 2-6 minutes a time so this is improving.

With baby latching and pumping how long does it generally take to get your milk to start coming in?

Thanks for all your advice,

Karen

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Karen, how often is he latching? The more often you get him on the breast the quicker your milk will increase. If he is staying on for 2-6 minutes it sounds like he is getting something. Is that total time or each side?Do you nurse him first then give the bottle? How much supplement is he taking? If he is willing to suckle let him often. The lactaid will help. It takes a little getting used to. I used one with my daughter. I think you are doing great Karen, keep it up. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Hi Karen,

You can try the Lact-aid. It will take time...not sure how long...everyone responds differently. If you're not comfortable with domperidone, think about fenugreek. It's a herb that is known as "the mother of all galactogogues". You would still be bringing in your milk "naturally".

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Lenore Goldfarb, Ph.D.,CCC,IBCLC
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